Hi everyone, good morning, good morning, I hope you can hear me.
Can anyone guess this song?
Good morning everyone. Happy summer. We'll go ahead and get started and probably about a minute. We have quite a few folks registered for this presentation, so I want to make sure that everyone or majority are in the room before we go ahead and get started.
Good morning everyone. Will go ahead and get started in probably another minute. We have close to 200 folks registered so.
I'm glad you all are eager and getting started really early.
Letitia P.
11:01:21 AM
"I haver a dream" piano cover?
Yes, awesome. I have a dream piano cover excellent.
My niece loves this movie so.
Awesome, that's good. I'm glad you guys can hear me.
11:01:46 AM
Can you record this presentation? thanks
Yes, this presentation is going to be recorded an it will be sent out to you so.
If you are in attendance, awesome. It will get sent out to you. Once it has been rendered and then for any of you that have friends that registered but haven't or weren't able to attend today then they will get the email as well for the recording.
So will be recording. You can always go back and even just check out the slides as well.
Alright, I think the numbers have kind of saddled.
Leticia Garay
11:02:45 AM
Hi everyone! Thanks for joining us. This presentation is being recorded and will be sent out via email at a later date.
So awesome, well, good morning everyone. I want to be respectful of everyone's time, especially since it's the beginning of summer. So thank you all so much for being here this morning. My name is Melanie David with UC Davis undergraduate admissions, IMB Bay Area Regional representative. I do have two colleagues in the chat. I will let them introduce themselves in the chat but I have Miss Letitia Grayan, Miss Christy Blain both who will be in the chat right now. Answer any of the questions that you have.
There will be plenty of time at the end to answer your questions. I have quite a presentation for you and hopefully I answer all of those for you. But again, at the end we will definitely have time for more specific questions. This is a personal insight question presentation so it is 1 application for all you sees. So we read and see the exact same thing so I know some of you had questions very specific to UC Davis. If we have time at the end we can respond to those, if not, I will give you my email at the end and you can always ask me those very specific questions.
To UC Davis and your situation afterwards. But again, we're focusing on the personal insight questions today. It is going to be a moderated chat, so if you do not see your question or comment right away, just know that Miss Letitia Anne Miss Christy are on the back end. Responding to those and approving those questions we also have.
Closed captioning available for you. It's going to be in your right hand corner. It says CC. It is going to show up in your chat box, so that's where you would want to see it and it is probably not 100% correct. I will try and talk a lot slower so hopefully it will be as accurate as it can be. So again, thank you so much for being here and let's go ahead and get started.
Leticia Garay
11:04:22 AM
Nice to meet you all! I'm a East Bay native who graduated from UC Davis and now advises students through the admissions process, just like Ms. Melanie. Feel free to ask us all your PIQ questions through the chat.
So the personal insight questions you have eight questions an you have to respond to. Four of them, not 3, not 5, but you have to submit four of them to actually submit and complete your UC application. You have 350 words maximum to respond. That's not a lot of words. All of you are used to writing so much more than 350. So you're like. Oh, what am I going to do? What do I write?
Wait, this is what this presentation is for. OK, so 350 words. That's plenty of space for you to express and explain yourself, and then we'll kind of go in and kind of give you examples of what you can potentially write about and how to write it in a concise manner since it getting dollar right. Yes, writing hundreds and thousands of words. So based on the questions that we did receive, these were the frequently asked ones and I think Letizia and Chrissy and I kind of put our heads together and that this is what we hear on the road when we are doing presentations.
Virtually or even in person, so some of them are. Can we use the same topics for two or more of the questions right? If maybe you're playing a sport, an instrument, maybe something happened and you want to talk about it in two questions, is that OK, or do they need to be separate topics will go over that? What exactly are the UC's looking for? What do we want to know, right? Again, it's one application for all you see is we read the exact same thing. So what is it that we're looking for? How do I make myself stand out? A lot of students?
They participate in the same clubs, do sports. Some students have other home responsibilities. So how do you make yourself stand out?
Are there any topics that are too common, too generic? Are there any off topics that we don't want to see that you shouldn't write about? What does that mean and then?
My PowerPoint did not update, but the other question I get asked a lot is how do you? How do you choose the questions? How do you know what the right questions are and how do you even get started? So we are going to answer those questions in this presentation, so let's go ahead and get started. So what exactly are we looking for in the personal insight questions? We're looking for context, so we're looking at your experience. Yes, a lot of you attend the same high school.
Yes, some of you attend different high schools, but you all go to him with different home lives. You are interested in different things, so give us the context of what you're doing, your environment, your experience. These last four years.
You're going to talk about clarity. You're going to give us details, very specific details, talk about one or two specific instances to give us those specific details and then depth. It's giving us more information as opposed to just grades, courses, your activities and awards. Those can look very similar across the board, but you're adding depth through your personal insight questions by giving us the context and clarity and that information that we can learn more about you. So we want you to think of the person inside questions as your interview.
With us and your grades, courses and your activities, awards can essentially be like a resume to us. OK and then your personal side questions. Wrap everything together and help us explain or understand your situation.
So what, again, is the purpose of it? You're sharing what is important to you. You're sharing your life, your experiences. We are all there is over 100 of us in this room. We're all experiencing this presentation together. However, if we took a survey and ask everyone what they took out of it, some of us might have taken the same thing. But majority of the time we're going to take something very different out of this experience. So yes, you could be at the same high school, but your experiences are different. Yes, you can be in the same club.
But your experience? Or is it different? So help us understand that. Provide specific information, so I will kind of go over like how you can provide that specific detail to us, again, including one or two examples you can reference. You know an activity and award something that happened in the last year or two, whatever it is. But give us those concrete.
Details and then show your voice, and you're probably wondering how do I show my voice when I'm writing? I'll be honest, I know when I write, I write a little bit different than obviously the way I speak.
But let me tell you when Christy and Letizia and I read these personal insight, questions were just a few of many of our team that read these applications is that we can tell when a student is being truthful and honest so we know majority of us are not English majors. You might maybe find a couple in our office, but we're not English majors. What we want from you is to hear your voice. We want to understand what you're going through. We want to.
Read what is important to you, what your experience have been, how life has affected you and your school works so.
When you're writing it, write it as if you were talking to me. Now that you've met me or any other, you see rap, a friend. Of course, we don't want you to use so much slang or acronyms. I know I think I'm pretty cool, but I have no idea what some of these words are or these acronyms or meanings. So if your grandma or grand period can read it and understand it, then that's pretty good. 'cause you never know who in the office of any UC department is going to be reading your application. And again, we just want you to show your voice, as in.
Being an authentic and true, try not to respond to these questions based on what you think that you see wants to hear. Maybe you're thinking that you see wants to see leadership. The UC wants to see a challenge we don't want to see anything. What we want is to see you in your environment. In your experiences. OK, so that's what we want is to learn as much as we can about you.
Again, here, thinking of the person in questions as an interview using I statements.
Personal insight I insight on who you are, your experiences so if we see I statements in there, it's very different than what you all are used to writing and that's OK. But it does take time. OK, so use I statements provide detail. Tell me about a club I participated in X Club. I did XY&ZI learned XYZ. Something of that sort. So again details not just I participate in five clubs. You can look at my activities and award section. We want detail.
And then focus on content. What are you trying to tell us? What do you want us to learn about you? What do you want us to take away from that response? We're not. We don't care about style. However, I will say it is a block of text that we're reading. There is no way to kind of sort if you're writing a poem. If it's kind of a wrap, there's no paragraphs. So please try and stay away from the traditional way of writing. It really is. What are you trying to tell us?
So now we're going to delve into the questions since the little quiet in here. Sorry, let Stacy and Chrissy are going to have to approve these, but has anyone seen the questions already?
You can put like a yes, I have maybe some of you started.
Sebastian W.
11:11:40 AM
Yes, I have.
Quote, So there's a few of you that have said yes you have, and that's OK if you haven't. That's why you're here, but just curious to see.
Ishika G.
11:11:43 AM
Yes, I just started this week
Aaron M.
11:11:44 AM
yes i have
Letitia P.
11:11:44 AM
I've seen them before.
How many folks have have seen it? OK, great, awesome and I see somebody have started. You know it's the best part. You're already starting by being here. So fantastic.
Great, so these are the questions. They are numbered one through 8 but please do not think number one is the most important. That's what the using wants to see. No, that's not what it is. They're just numbered one through 8 to show you that there's eight options. OK, so let's go ahead and delve into it. So one of them it just talks about you're describing your leadership experience, how you influence others, resolve issues contributed to a group effort over time.
So that could be a project during school, whether it's a semester project. During the quarter, the full year. Maybe it's all four years, but this also one thing about this question is that I want to stress it doesn't have to be a leadership title. It doesn't have to be ASB, President, Secretary, vice President, manager, supervisor. You can influence others in your friend group in your family. Maybe help resolve disputes between family members, cousins, friends, so it doesn't have to be an official title, but I think a lot of students think when they think leadership.
Oh, I have to have this specific title and you don't just talk about how you influence others.
So that's one example. So talk about a specific instance, so this would be maybe you participated in a club. You can talk about that. Maybe you are the family person an you have siblings or cousins that you have to help resolve disputes with on a daily basis. You can talk about that within your home. OK, so very specific instances about that.
So the second option is every person has a creative side.
Leticia Garay
11:13:26 AM
The freshman PIQs & more PIQ tips: https://admission.universityofcalifornia.edu/how-to-apply/applying-as-a-freshman/personal-insight-questions.html
I know I don't think I do, but I think we can think of some things right. You can think about problem solving, innovative thinking especially for you that are in the engineering interest areas. Artistically, that's what I always think of when you're being creative, but obviously there's other ways that students can be creative. Describe how you express your creative side. Students can talk about being artistically creative, but I also have students that artistic in the Theatre Department, an engineering in biology. I even had a student talk about how they had to be creative about watching.
Their nephew, while they were in school and they had to like build this barricade because it was an open house and so they had to make sure that their nephew wasn't going to their kitchen or whatever it was so.
Think outside the box. I know a lot of people are like, oh, I don't have a creative bone in me. Absolutely fine. If you have other options to choose from, OK?
Vinay S.
11:14:29 AM
Should we cite specific instances/circumstances?
And then another option is what would you say is your greatest skill or talent? How you developed it? OK, so that development can be this last year specially being in this virtual space. Maybe it was something over the last two years. Maybe it was something since elementary school, middle school, whatever it is and how you demonstrated that talent overtime. OK, so make sure you list our greatest skill or talent. Maybe it's one of each. Maybe it's two things how you developed it and how you're demonstrating it over time, OK?
And it could honestly be something that you learned in this virtual space that you're planning to continue to take with you this upcoming year as rising seniors.
Another option is describe how you taken advantage of a significant educational opportunity.
Or work to overcome an educational barrier you have faced. OK, so this is kind of. It's not a two parter, it really is 2 questions, but my recommendation and any other you see that we want to see is choose one. So choose either how you taken advantage of an educational opportunity or how you overcame an educational barrier. OK, I have seen a student respond to both of them in 350 words.
Leticia Garay
11:15:38 AM
Specifics are always encouraged but we understand some circumstances are sensitive so it also comes down to whatever you feel comfortable sharing.
Very very very rare. Do we see that though? So that's why I always say choose one because 350 words is not a lot and I want you to explain to me what was that education opportunity was it. Internship was at a job. Was it a class? Was it a club? You even participating in this presentation is taking advantage of an educational opportunity right? In this virtual space. Did you participate in any like webinars that other companies were hosting?
Or how you overcome an educational barrier that can mean anything. So I know this virtual space. That definitely was a barrier.
You can talk about that if it had greatly impacted you, so again, these are just some examples that you could potentially start thinking about.
Of what to write and how to share it with the UC system.
Aman S.
11:16:30 AM
Can it be something like a trip, etc. that isn't educational on the face of it but focus on what we learned from the experience?
So now we're going to move on to the next set of four.
So it could be described the most significant challenge you have faced, so I know this one and the previous one are kind of similar. So like how you overcame an educational barrier versus a significant challenge, so a significant challenge can be educational, or it could be personal. It could be anything that you wanted to be a significant challenge you have faced.
OK, if you're going to talk about that and then what steps did you take to overcome that challenge?
And then last but not least, we just need a simple sentence. How did it affect your academics? A lot of the times it greatly affected your academics and we can see that in your academic section. However, there are many times where students we don't even see any dip in grades, but they're telling us that they overcame that, and there may be some students are even continuously working on it right now, or it might be a long long term or lifelong challenge that they're going to be dealing with, and that's OK. So help us understand that, OK?
But don't forget that last piece of how it affected your academics. Again, a simple sentence, as it did not affected my academics or a greatly affected my academics. As you can see in my junior year.
OK, so just make sure that you kind of respond to each of those those parts of the question.
And then another option is think about an academic subject that inspires you.
Describe how you further that interest inside or outside of the classroom.
This is a great question. I think a lot of students like to respond to this only because it talks about a subject that inspires them. You can talk about how you are doing outside work, whether you're watching YouTube videos.
Shows talking to teachers doing an internship or so that's outside of the classroom.
Maybe inside of a classroom or taking more AP classes. Maybe you're taking a college course. Maybe you are just taking more science classes or history classes or English classes than normal because you really enjoy that subject area. A question I do get asked is what if this subject area isn't?
Leticia Garay
11:18:38 AM
Yes! All these questions are open-ended. There are no right or wrong answers. Focusing on what you learned is very insightful to us in understanding what it important to you and who you are.
That you're interested in is that necessarily related to the major major choice that you're applying into, and that's OK. It doesn't need to be my favorite subject areas biology. That's why you're applying to all of these bio programs in the UC system. Maybe you really like art and history, but you really are going to major in biology. That's absolutely fine. Everyone can talk about whatever they would like. OK, so again, it doesn't have to be related, but it can be if you would like.
So another option you have is what have you done to make your school or community a better place?
Says school, yes, it could be your school. Your community can mean your club, team, your sports team, your family, your friends. So just kind of like the leadership position. I'd like to stress his students that what you've done to make your school community a better place does not have to be this big, grandiose thing. It doesn't have to be this. You raise $10,000. Maybe you have great, but it really could be you and your community. You and your neighbors.
You and your friends, you and your family every year do XY and Z and that's making your community a better place. Maybe you know you do something at school that is not club related, but you do it every day and that's how you're making your school or community a better place.
OK, so that's absolutely fine and then last but not least, you have kind of an open ended question of beyond what is already in your application. What makes you stand out as a strong candidate?
A lot of students think like, Oh yes, I should respond to this. This is my time to just write whatever I want and it really is. But really, be conscious about what you are sharing with us. There's other ways that students can show other sides of them. They can provide more detail, more context in the other questions. But if this is something that you want to share, like what makes you stand out.
Harry P.
11:20:41 AM
Does it provide any benefit for the answer to 6 to be related to major or is it better to show multiple sides of interests?
By all means, feel free to respond to it. There's no question that is better than the other. Like I said before, we're not necessarily always looking for leadership. We're not always looking for a challenge. We're not always checking to see what you've done for to do. Make your school or community a better place. What we want is to get as much information as we can about you, so I'm going to go back to the question of can I talk about the same topic in two of these? Or more of these questions?
Technically, yes, you could do whatever you want.
So an example that I have kind of off the top of my head is a student wants to talk about a skill or talent, so that could be a musical instrument.
Leticia Garay
11:21:28 AM
We want an honest answer about who you are and what is important to you so there is no preference or benefit to answering one way over another.
OK, so great they can talk about that and then they talk about what about music and what have you done to make your score community a better place. So then they talk about being part of this music community and how they perform X amount of times during the year for X.
Kind of populations or communities, and so they talk about in two different areas.
If you are talking about the same topic, so maybe it's music, theatre, dance, sports.
What you want to really focus on is responding to that specific question. OK, so if you're talking about a skill or talent.
Talk about that skill or talent, how you developed it and demonstrated overtime.
Making or taking advantage of an educational opportunity like.
Harry P.
11:22:14 AM
Thank you!
Leticia Garay
11:22:19 AM
Anytime!
Taking a music class or a theater class, then you want to make sure that you're talking about what was the opportunity and how you took advantage of it directly. OK, so I'm not going to say don't talk about two different. You know the same topic in two different questions because I think a lot of students have a lot to say, and there's different facets of that experience in itself. But if you can talk about a different experience, then I would recommend that because we're going to learn.
About the different sides of you, the different experiences that you've had. If you're having a hard time figuring out questions, I'm going to go over all of that and how you can help figure out or hone in on what questions you should or can respond to. OK, so hopefully.
Maybe I should stop right now if there's any questions on these right now, laticia.
And honestly, there's really no preference, and you're probably wondering, like, Are you sure Melanie the UC has to have some sort of statistics that say X amount of students respond to more of this? And honestly, I was on Council conference personal insight question, work group last year, and I presented an when we looked at the the final spread of how many students responded to, you know the first option, 2nd, 3rd, 4th through 8th. Honestly, they were very very close. Maybe like 1-2 percent.
Honestly, they are all equal value and what we are looking for is what information is a student giving us. So we always think of the personal insight questions as a missed opportunity.
Or added value. So are you adding value to your application? Are you adding value to what I am reading about you? Are you telling me about yourself? Are you telling me about your experiences?
As opposed to a missed opportunity where many times I'm sure my colleagues can, you know, attest that this also is we're reading it and we're like.
Sydney F.
11:24:27 AM
For prompt #6, what constitutes an "academic subject"? Does it need to be directly related to a subject or class you could take at school?
We didn't really learn anything about you. You just told us that you did you participate in this club and you went to club meetings.
But that was it. You didn't really tell me about what you learned, what you did.
So we did get a question so prompt 6 about the academic subject doesn't need to be directly related to a subject or a class you take at school. It doesn't have to be. It could really just be a topic that you're interested in, whether it's coding with its art could be history.
So honestly, it really is just how to do further it inside and or outside. It doesn't necessarily need to be both.
Sydney F.
11:25:03 AM
Thanks for the clarification!
And it also doesn't necessarily be related to your major. It could because I know many of you obviously are interested in those different areas.
Aaron M.
11:25:18 AM
Should we keep a theme throughout our answers to each question or can they each be independent of each other
So we're going to go ahead and oh OK. Good question. We just got a question in about keeping a theme.
11:25:46 AM
Is there a seperate place to talk about the specific impact of COVID? For our family it has been significant.
No, you do not need to keep a theme. They are very independent of each other. Some students who are more creative than others seem to have a theme going on, but again, we're reading them very independent of each other. We're not reading them. As you know an essay. We're just reading them as responses, so you are responding to these questions. When I'm asking you about your favorite academic subject or a subject that inspires you, tell me about, you know art inspires me because.
There is no special intro to that. Some of you are much better writers, but it doesn't need to be fancy. OK, when we are reading this, we're just trying to get to the meat and potatoes of what you are telling us so we can learn as much as we can about you.
OK, and there is great question about a separate place about talking about the impacts of COVID. Even the social justice movements that been happening in this last year and a half. There is additional comments section which I'll be talking about in the next few slides. But before we get to the additional comments, what I did want to talk about is.
Give you an example because samples are great. This doesn't mean copy them. This is just an example. Again, we kind of wrote these, so bear with us so this is sample one.
I'm not going to read it out loud, but this one is talking about.
We're responding to think about an academic subject that inspires you and how you further that, inside and or outside of the classroom.
So I'll give you like a minute to to read it.
Christy Blaine
11:27:01 AM
Yes, Aaron your responses can be independent of each other.
Aaron M.
11:27:34 AM
Thank you!
OK, so I'm going to ask for your feedback. Do you think this was a missed opportunity or an added value?
Do you think it added value to their application or?
Ishika G.
11:27:44 AM
missed
Just kind of fell a little flat.
Cassandra R.
11:27:49 AM
missed
Sorry TC and Chrissy are going to have to approve all these.
Sebastian W.
11:27:50 AM
Missed opportunity because it didn't talk much about the person themself.
11:27:51 AM
Missed opportunity
Awesome and thank you for those that are sharing why you think it's a missed opportunity.
Aaron M.
11:28:00 AM
missed
Awesome, yeah. So it is a missed opportunity and I think I saw in there because they didn't talk much about the person themselves, right? So like I said this is not an essay. This would be a great start for an essay, right?
The the Super description of a blistering red hot October Tuscan sun, salty sweat. We don't need that so we didn't learn as much as we can about it. I know it's kind of cut short, but you can tell this is a great start. So this is what I expect to see from some students. When you're getting started. And I always tell students when you get started just right just right and you can have someone to help you shorten it down. OK, it's a lot easier to kind of cutting down and come, you know, condense it to 350 words.
So miss opportunity. We didn't really learn too much about the students. So now I've sampled one. They're responding to the same.
Leticia Garay
11:28:51 AM
Remember, we may be approachable BUT we are still strangers to you! Think about what is most important to highlight about yourself when you're first meeting someone.
Response to academic subject.
I'll give you a minute for this.
Alexandra S.
11:29:03 AM
they didn't describe how they furthered their interest
OK, so same thing, missed opportunity, added value. What do you think?
Some of you might even want to add why you think.
Aman S.
11:29:51 AM
it was more of a list of activities they've done...is that the goal for this prompt?
Jack P.
11:29:55 AM
Added value because it described the steps the student took
Alexandra S.
11:30:01 AM
Added value; described actions they took and how it developped their interest
Jeremy K.
11:30:03 AM
Added, it's both actions taken and what specifically they enjoy about the subject
Ishika G.
11:30:03 AM
Added value because it gave multiple specific examples about how the person furthered their interest
Amon in there. So yes, it is added value.
Because they gave a specific so they told us the fall semester of junior year.
I know Laticia mention is we are very approachable. You kind of know what I look like now and I might be one of those training application. However, you don't know who's going to be reading it. It is the first time that we are meeting you through your personal insight questions, right? So you want us not to assume anything. We when we're reading it, we cannot assume things. So the student is telling us fall semester of junior year anthropology. They were club president for over a year.
11:30:39 AM
Added because it showed the steps
Aaron M.
11:30:41 AM
Added because they talked about how their love for anthropology was furthered by their own actions
So they're talking about these things. Obviously this is very loaded. If it were president, they did clubs. They did a college course. This doesn't have to be you, but it could be something that you did. So maybe in you know spring of sophomore year you joined X Club or you took this X class. You know freshman year, and that's how you kind of spurred this interest in whatever topic or subject there it is. OK, so these are just examples. You do not have to copy it.
It shouldn't look exactly like this because all of you are different. Some of you might have some of this experience, so that's great, but it's just helping you understand the detail and the things that we are looking for, because again, we don't know you. We don't know what you look like. Many times this is the first time we're meeting a student. And yes again, academics grades great. But like I said, that can look the same across the board. What really separates all of you and makes you stand out is your experiences.
So like I said, if you're worried about well, other students participate in X club or like oh with sports. There's so many students that do export.
Yes, but your experience in that club in that sport in that school is very different from everyone else. OK, so help us understand that when you are writing these personal insight questions, we know that's what makes you different. So that was the number one question we always get is like how do I make myself stand out in the UC system? Talk about yourself.
You are unique, you are special and that's what we want to learn. OK, so I know this is hard because with specially in the Bay Area, there's a lot of comparison of well, like well so and so is doing this or my friends doing this and I you know with COVID and this pandemic.
Leticia Garay
11:32:59 AM
Someone brought up a good point about it being more of an activities list. Your responses shouldn't be a list of your extracurriculars but you can pinpoint a couple of them and build on HOW those activities are important to you or what you learned from this activity.
There's a lot of things. The Bay Area I live in the Bay Area to. We were the strictest counties so there's not a lot of things that we could have done. So what else were you doing with your time? A lot of you might have had more family responsibilities. We know being at school at home is very different, especially of younger families, parents, working grandparents, guardian, so on and so forth. So if you want to talk about that, help us understand that because every student has experienced an every family has experienced this pandemic very differently.
Ann, we're making do, and you're doing a fantastic job. So help us understand that so you can talk about that in the personal insight questions.
If there's a question that you want to respond to, or a really great place is, the additional comments also.
Another thing that I wanted to talk about is like how do I get started? How do I even choose questions? I have no creative bone in me, I don't even. I don't even have a lot of experience. I don't. There's no four questions that I could respond to. I can only respond to two of them. What I would recommend that you do is go to this website. Is there is a really great hand out. There is an English and Spanish to kind of get your brain thinking about what leadership means to you. What creativity is? What opportunities?
That you might have taken advantage of.
Talk to your friends. You are all living your life the way you live and so we all think it's so normal. But the more I talk to students, I always think, wow, that is not.
Normal that's not typical of a high school student, but you forget that because you're living your life, and that's what that's what you know. So talk to a teacher and talk to a counselor. Talk to her friend and be like hey like, can you help me hash out? You know some of these things. I know there's also a really great point of starting your activities list. If some of you don't have a resume yet, I hope you kind of sit down this summer and start writing with any awards that I got freshman through now. Were there any clubs volunteer work? Did I do some research online and took? You know some webinars?
Classes in this virtual space.
It shows have I watched that and kind of develop my interest area so.
Start listing out some of those things and you'd be surprised at actually what you've done. OK, maybe your time management has been a lot better. Maybe you could work on time management a little bit better. OK, so these are just things to help you get started. What you'll notice is if you're working on this worksheet, is that some questions will have more bullet points or more writing next to it and that's when you can start honing in on that. I always tell students if you have five or six, start writing it out and then by the end of it you'll say like OK, these four.
I can, you know, really hone in really focus on what I want to write about and you can get feedback from.
Counselors, friends, family members.
To really figure out and finalize what for.
You should submit to the UC system. The great thing is you're starting early is June, y'all are rock stars for even being here, and so you just knowing what the questions are and I hope some of you are already thinking about which prompts you can respond to is really great. So now the hard part's over.
Well, maybe not, but it really is just bullet points and then start writing it out in full sentences. And then you still have plenty of time to finesse and you know, get feedback on all of that.
So some tips starting early.
That's already a check mark for all of you. Fantastic keep your responses focused. OK, so initially I just want you to write because I need you to get all of that information down. What happens is when we start writing, we start thinking about other things. So just put it all down and then we can kind of condense it. And that's what feedback and proofreading and editing is for. Make sure the information is updated and related or relative to this time frame or within your high school career. Work on it in a Google doc. A Word document somewhere where you can count the words.
It's 350 words maximum. If a student writes 355 words, if they copy and paste it into the UC application, what's going to happen to those five words? It's going to get cutoff. So what happens is each and every year when we read these applications.
We still read cutoff sentences, so there is no period at the end were like oh, they didn't count their words properly. So please make sure you work on it in a document and copy and paste it and make sure it's 350 words. Last but not least is relaxed. You are an expert on who you are.
And that's what we want K. We want to learn about you, your experiences, no need to talk well. You can talk about grandparents, parents, Guardians, teachers, so and so who has influenced you. But really, personal insight. I want insight on who you are in your experiences.
So we're going to go into additional comments so I know there's a question. How do you talk about COVID? How do you talk about maybe a family member that was affected by it? The social justice movements that have been happening, just you know everything that has been happening in this world.
Personal insight questions or additional comments is a really great place to include that information. We have two spaces for it, academic history and after a personal insight questions so academic history, you have 550 characters. It's not as much space, it's about a few sentences because the space is a character in that point or a period, so that is anything academically related. And then the Personal insights section. Yeah, 550 words. So that is a space for students to include anything.
Actually this is not a place for you to copy and paste another response or things like that, but there is space for you to include anything extra in these areas. So what can you include there?
There you go. I additional comment section. You can say I took journalism every year because it was required for new staff. Some of you had to take a class because it was required. You can put that in additional comments. Under academic history. You can say my school limited taking AP or honors courses or due to budget cuts due to virtual learning. This is what you include and those additional comments spaces. There's no right or wrong space to include these this new information.
That you want to know. Just make sure that you put it on your application somewhere.
So again, the additional comment section is not a place for you to respond to a 50 IQ question. These are this is a space for you to talk about. Anything knew you can talk about. Again, COVID-19, social justice, movement, family challenges that you've had over the last couple years commuting to school.
Switching schools, what else not a place for you to copy and paste your resume or links? Please also do not put any links to any projects that you have done your Instagram. Your YouTube.
Letitia P.
11:39:57 AM
How important is the essay amidst other things (eg; SAT score, activities)?
Tick Tock noted that just don't put links in there. You can talk about your following on Tik T.O.K or Facebook or Instagram. You guys probably won't use Facebook as much, but on your social media. Just don't copy and paste that resume. You can say I created this portfolio online. If you have questions, you know you can let me know. But please try not to copy and pieces links. We will not look at that.
Again, additional comments is completely optional. I think in this day and age.
In that space, because there is more to tell us about, you know what's been happening these last, you know, couple of years. OK, so we are seeing more students include additional comments, which is absolutely fine, because what we want is more information or as much information as we can from you about your experiences.
Christy Blaine
11:40:58 AM
At UCDavis, we do a holistic review of our applications, so their is no weight to one area over the other.
So last but not least, Question Time. I know it's easy and Chrissy have been busy in the chat, but this is the time for you to ask any questions that you have. This is also my personal email if you have any questions after the fact or if you have very personal questions that you're like. Hey Melanie, I'm debating if I should talk about this or this. Let me know. Another question again that we do get asked a lot. Is there any topics that are too common? Are there any off limit topics?
Honestly, there is no topic that is off limit. We have read many, many things students have gotten very personal with us. It is confidential. When we read this, it's not like I'm going to call it TCP like hey, did you read this application? It's not like that. A lot of times students are sharing with us for the first time, something new, and so it honestly is up to you. But the more we know.
Ishika G.
11:41:51 AM
Our schools, for example, don't have many AP or honors class options for freshman year, do we have to write that in the additional comments?
The more it helps us understand your environment, your experiences last for years, so on and so forth. So there's really no topic that's off limit. It really is how comfortable you feel, how much you want to share with us, and there's really no topic that's like 2 general because I say students, yes, could talk about sports and clubs. And yes, there's a lot of students that participate in those things, but the way they write it is very different, so.
I would say again talk about experiences that are important to you that are meaningful to you that give us as much information as we can from you.
That easier do you want to ask some questions out loud or questions that you would like to reiterate?
Yes hi everyone, my name is Lisa. I've been answering some of your questions in the chat so that you have another friendly face. To put some, you know a name to. It looks like we are getting a few questions in the queue, so I'm going to start off with the very first one still related to their PA cues and Sydney is asking would you say that the IQ's are less about telling a story?
Sydney F.
11:42:43 AM
Would you say that the PIQs are less about telling a story and more about reflecting on experiences you've had and analyzing how you've changed as a result of them?
And more about reflecting on experiences you've had and analyzing how you've changed as a result of them.
Christy Blaine
11:42:50 AM
Ishika, yes, you can add this into your Additional comments area of the application.
Actually, great question, so I would say yes, less storytelling. Get to the point of what experience it was an then definitely focus more on what you did in that.
Kind of experience what you learned, what you're going to take with you, so it is kind of a hard balance to try and figure out well how much story is enough to give us the background information and then moving forward with that. So again, it does take time, so that's why we always say start early. So then you can get feedback to kind of hone it in that way, but there's no.
You know we're not looking at style. We're not looking at flow, we're not looking at theme or anything like that. We just need you to respond to that specific question. And then we're going to move on to read the next response.
Ishika G.
11:43:59 AM
Ok, thank you!
Sydney F.
11:44:00 AM
Thank you!
11:44:03 AM
Does one person read one student's essay? Or do multiple people read the essays?
Yes, awesome and Sidney. I think you kind of answered your own question. Actually put it very well. You said it very well actually in your own question about how it's about a reflection so kind of going back to that second example that Melanie showed and somebody pointed out how it sounded more like a list of activities. So you definitely don't want to list out everything you've already listed out in the extracurricular section you want to build off of that. So what I usually tell students is.
Christy Blaine
11:44:29 AM
We have multiple people read the essay's for the UCDavis campus.
If there is an experience or an extracurricular activity that you really, really feel is important to you, pick that experience or extracurricular an right about not just what you did, but also really tell us why it's important. Like why are you writing about it? 'cause that's really what we're looking for. We can read that you have X amount of hours in the extracurricular section, but we don't understand why it's important until you actually explain it, so make sure that you are always thinking about the why is this important?
And how that does have an impact? I think those are the two biggest questions you should ask yourself when you're writing each question.
That is fantastically teaching which kind of goes to Harry's question of.
Harry P.
11:44:58 AM
What in particular makes a response stand out to admissions readers among the many, many responses they read? Style, topic, content, etc.? Thanks!
11:45:05 AM
Applying to multiple UCs, do we only need one set of responses (4 of the 8) since it is 1 application?
Josh A.
11:45:09 AM
How important is "character development" in our PIQs?
What you know? What makes it stand out is its style is a topic or context, so you just answered that though it is context, it's what are we learning from you. So that's really great. Which kind of goes into another question. That CC is how is important. How important is character development in RPI cues?
Christy Blaine
11:45:31 AM
Yes, you have one UC Application for all nine UC campuses.
Right, so I would say the most memorable PA cues that I read are the ones that show me how they've grown. So even in a question that's a little bit more difficult to talk about because it pertains to, you know difficult circumstances that you may have overcome or barriers. It really helps for us to understand not just the situation, but also like what what you grew or how you grew out of it.
Sebastian W.
11:45:43 AM
What are some tips that you have to make your essay unique? Would you suggest using a different structure?
So you know if if it lead you to a particular passion or interest or if it lead you to, you know, increase your grades. That really helps us go back to the overall application and understand. Oh OK well, yeah maybe there was a little bit of a dip, but they explained why there's a dip. And now we can understand that given the context of given the barrier, the student is actually doing really well and so it's more than just, you know, seeing that GPA trend over the application. So always think about like how does this relate.
To what you're learning, and again, it's a reflection. All of these are reflection pieces, so you know always try to answer your own question, but also when you're thinking about like you know, why am I writing about this? That's probably the answer you want to give in the PQ.
Nyla J.
11:46:39 AM
Are there other school specific questions you have to answer as well?
That is such a great great tip. Easier, thank you so much for that. I am going to reiterate again. It is 1 application for all you sees, so your student if they're applying to all nine campuses 541. We're reading the exact same response. OK, so your student only has his students. You only write it one time Anura again all nine campuses. If you apply to all of us will be reading the exact same thing and it gets read multiple times by a human. So not just ucdavis, but you see why.
Our admissions office. That's why all of December, January, and practically, all of most of February we are reading all of our freshmen applications. OK, so it is a human reading it. It gets read multiple times by different human beings. I wish there was a control Alt F for certain keywords, but there's not laticia and Christy could attest to that if there were keywords, we would be telling you all of those keywords 'cause it would make it easier for all of us. But there's not. So like, let's he's been saying, like what is the why? Why are you sharing this with us?
What do you want us to learn about you?
And that is really what we are looking for. That's what all you Caesar looking for. So yes, we have our UC Davis garb on or you know we are wrapping ucdavis. But again, this is UC wide. Again, this is what all you Caesar looking for is. How are you going to fit on our campus? What have you been doing because you know any of the campus that you attend is going to be a great one as long as it's a great fit for you that you see there is a question in here.
11:48:17 AM
Do you find that students who are English Majors vs. Math Science majors write more effectively? If so, do you calibrate for this?
Do you find that students who are English majors versus math or science majors write more effectively or efficiently? If so, do you calibrate for this?
Christy Blaine
11:48:49 AM
Nyla, you have the one UC application. There are not campus specific questions within the UC application.
Yeah, so I mean, I think everyone's always trying to know like is there a difference between the types of students and the answers that we're getting? And, you know, I'm going to say, you know, in my five years of being at Davis doing this job, I would say overall it I wouldn't know because at Davis and some other campuses will do this as well. He's in the UC system, but we have a holistic review process, which means that we're really looking at the we're looking at 13 different criteria.
When we're looking at your application so that personal inside questions is not going to be a specific category, but the information in there is embedded in the 13 different factors, and I'm sure Christy could add the link to the 13 different factors in the chat for you all but that given that we're not looking for specific majors or specific skills or activities related to specific majors.
And so usually when I'm reading an application, I will focus on what this team has done. I'm not really paying attention to what major they're applying into. Sometimes I'll read a personal insight question and I'll see it's very science related. So then I'll go back and be like, oh OK, you know their their science major, or oh, that's interesting. There are history major, and that just gives me some more context, but it really doesn't mean that I'm paying more attention to one over another. So really, you know.
Christy Blaine
11:49:49 AM
https://www.ucdavis.edu/admissions/undergraduate/apply/application-review-criteria
I don't think we're really too focused on the writing style. It's really the information, so for me personally, I prefer more straightforward answers. If you could just be like, this is what I like, or this is my experience and this is how I grew like. That is awesome because that gives me all the information I need it straight to the point I'm not confused at the end, so you know, just make sure that you're answering the question. Don't worry too much about like how you're comparing with other students in the holistic review process, we really are just looking.
At the one application we have in front of us, we're not pulling up all the 20 plus applications coming from your school and comparing them.
Great, thank you so much. Let you see and that again is something that we would like to reiterate. I know there's a lot of students in here, but there's also quite a few parents in here as well. So really like that, he said I cannot stress enough and again, this is. You see why that we are looking at your student in their environment. So yes, your students may attend the same school, but like I said they are experiencing high school very differently. They've experienced this pandemic very differently, so help us understand students. Help us understand how that has affected you, how that's kind of change your trajectory. Some of you might want to go into a different.
Subject There you're a major because of what has happened in these last couple years, so.
Help us understand that in your personal insight questions or the additional comments.
Any other questions out there?
And yes, again, this is being recorded. It will be sent out to you, probably within the next.
I don't know, probably by the end of the day, once it is rendered you will be getting an email sent to you with the link. So honestly you can just turn off the volume and just go through the slides if that's what you would like to do.
But any questions in there? Thank you so much Chrissy for putting the application review criteria in there.
And again, we do read everything in your application. We know that you students spend so much time writing these personal inside questions. We know you spend so much time working on these applications that we spend time reading them.
11:52:13 AM
This was a great presentation and very helpful. Thank you.
And that's why it's such a busy, busy time for us. And so I know it sounds. Or it may seem like forever when we are reading and you don't get your decissions until March when you submit it in November. But it's because we are reading it and it is a human reading your application.
11:52:24 AM
Thanks a million! We appreciate your partnership, so much! -Laura Duran from LAHS College & Career Center
Any other questions itys? Is there anything else that?
Maybe we could last piece of advice for any of these students.
You know, I'm trying to think honestly, I would start, you know, I think all the advice you've already given has been very useful. I really cannot stress the importance of starting early. I'm actually in my own process of writing like.
Melanie David
11:53:20 AM
Thank you Laura! :) Thank you to the MVHS and LAHS college counselors for allowing us to present to you all!
Harry P.
11:53:23 AM
Thank you! This has been very informative :)
Ishika G.
11:53:26 AM
This is a general application question. Art is one of my extracurriculars and I was wondering if I should just include that in the essays and the activities list or if there is a place to submit an art portfolio (I am not an art major). Thank you!
I say is for a graduate program and I find myself using a lot of those feedback and tips. So if you start early and kind of make a bullet point just right, you'll start to see that you start reflecting on the answers that you're giving and the questions that you're choosing so you know. Give yourself some time to kind of go through that process. It can't really be rushed, which is, you know where you see the quality of the writing throughout the times when you get an application that started early versus one that was done like the night before.
11:53:27 AM
Yes! Ms. Duran and I are asking kids to start now!
David F.
11:53:54 AM
Thank you!
Alexandra S.
11:53:57 AM
I was about to ask how to choose questions but you answered it just now. Thanks for the presentation!
I would say make sure you're picking questions that are very relevant to yourself. So kind of going back to you know the previous questions of how do I stand out or how do I write about this really? Your best answers are going to be based off of the questions that you can actually talk about, so they'll pick questions that you think we want to hear about, like Melanie shared earlier, there are going to be pretty equally answered across the board.
Melanie David
11:54:05 AM
Thanks for joining Alexandra!
But you want to pick the ones that are going to be. Once you have materials and reflections to to really elaborate on so big. The first four that you see that are most important to you. Once that you already have like something right off the bat when you read it and then we go from there.
Christy Blaine
11:54:17 AM
Ishika, there is not a place to upload an art portfolio. You can talk about art as one of your PIQ's.
Great piece of advice and.
11:54:23 AM
LAHS students- come to our follow up meeting today at 1:30 PM we will go over how we can help you with the drafts and more. Zoom link on CCC site- Summer: College Support. Or email me for it! :)
11:54:28 AM
Thanks UC Davis Team.
Jeremy K.
11:54:31 AM
Are there any common mistakes or misconceptions about the PIQs that are easy fixes, if only students knew about them?
Let's see, there's a question in here. Are there any common mistakes or misconceptions about the PA cues that are easy fixes? If only students knew about them, and I think you hit one on the nail which is starting early and choosing questions that pertain to you, right? So when I say we can tell when a student is trying hard is when we're reading something and a student is not.
We can tell when a student is very truthful and authentic in their experience.
As opposed to really, really trying hard to respond to that leadership question and we're like it doesn't seem as thorough or as detailed because they're really trying to pull from it. We can tell again when a student is being honest in their experience, what they want to share with us, and if you want to talk about your creative side educational opportunities, please tell us about that. OK, there's again, no question that is better than the other. What makes a great question is the more information we get from you.
Again, think of it as when you're reading it to yourself, or if your friend is reading it. Is this adding value to your application or is it like oh, let's see, I think you can add a little bit more. Don't you remember this? And I think that is really helpful because your friends remember those things.
And again, your life is your life, and so you know you kind of forget that you're doing all of these things and I know we're not talking about the activities in award section, but I did want to mention some of you have family responsibilities. Some of you might be working at that in your application as well in your activities in Ward section, taking care of siblings, grandparents, parents, guardians. That's volunteer work, anything you're doing outside of studying or outside of school.
11:56:12 AM
Is the “Additional Comments Section” recommended or a plus?
Should be put in your activities and awards section and there was a question, is the additional comment section A plus? If you add anything extra in there honestly there's no.
I would say it's added information which could add value to the students application only if it's information that is new.
Compelling something that we haven't read anywhere else in the application. This is not a place again for students to copy and paste there.
You know links lettuce, it can probably attest that too. Is that sometimes students just copy and paste the resume in there, and that's not what we want.
We want contacts, yeah value.
Right, and you know the additional comment section is not an additional PIQ, so it really is just to kind of pinpoint any facts or experiences that you think can fit in any other area that you want to call some attention to so it doesn't have to be written very elaborately. It really can just be like in the ninth grade.
So we moved from one side of town to another, and so that's why my grades or my courses changed. So something as simple as that really helps us understand performance or why you shifted gears from one interest to another. That being said, if we usually skim these sections so if we see something that sounds like APIQ, we're not going to use it, so you know, don't try to be sneaky and I like to say that 'cause you know, I don't want you to put in all this work.
As a student to think that you're getting the upper hand, you're really not. We're really looking for, just like FY eyes in these sections, and you know, you can put him either in the educational history, additional comment section, or in the very last one. There is no penalty for putting it in the wrong place, really, for any part of the application, even outside of the accused in additional comments. So just put it where you think is best. We usually recommend if you're going to leave a comment under additional.
11:58:42 AM
Our school did pass/fail for one semester for everyone. Is that something the students need to comment on? Or is it obvious to addmissions?
11:58:46 AM
Will hiring a private college consultant increase
11:58:47 AM
my chance of writing a better UC Statement
Or sorry, educational history that it be related to coursework or grade trends and anything that is related to kind of everything else. More personal things be in the very last section after the peak use. But again, there's no penalty for putting it in one section over the other. So really don't stress out too much about it. Just use it if you feel like it's necessary to your situation.
Great which laticia? That's a great question for one of the questions that came in, is there school went past fail for one semester for everyone, so that could be your student could put it in the.
Christy Blaine
11:59:13 AM
No, hiring a private college consultant will not increase your chance of writing a better a UC Statement.
Additional comments under academic history to put you know, Spring 2020 went pass fail and that's it doesn't need to be explained. We know what was happening during that time, but that would be a great example of what your student can put in that area so.
Thank you for adding that lysithea and there was a question I do want to put this out there because I know I've talked to.
Here college counselors at MB LA.
And the district? And how will hiring a private consultant increase your chances of getting into a UC?
Again like this you see and I said I wish there were keywords that we could tell you if you do XY and Z automatically get into the UC. But honestly when I'm helping students again, if we're not wearing our UC Davis gear, if we're advising you to the UC system as a whole, we actually can't guarantee admission one way or another. Each campus is very different and each year is very different.
Here, college counselors can tell you that, and so we can't tell you one way or another and your private consultants. If you choose to pay for him, great, if not your you see we do this as our job. This is what we do during recruitment season. We help students you know, figure out the UC application, the personal insight questions. We are here. This is our job. You don't need to pay us so you can choose to do that, but it doesn't necessarily give you an upper hand. Use your counselors. Use the UC system. All of our Campuses, 9 campuses across the UC.
Right and just a quick tidbit.
We have outreach advisors. Your college counselors have contacts at the different uses so utilized us. This is what we are here for.
You know it's not about style is really about context and the information that's in there the content. So if you're having somebody kind of read over it, that's awesome. We definitely recommend having multiple people read your PQ drafts to give you some feedback, but ultimately, like Melanie said earlier, you're your own expert on who you are, so you know nobody's going to be able to tell your story better than you.
Harry P.
12:01:27 PM
One class did not give +s for grades, only letters no matter the percent. Is this something to put in academic history statement? Thanks!
Harry P.
12:01:29 PM
Also certain required classes without Honors/AP options may have affected weighted GPA, should this be expressed in academic history statement?
12:01:31 PM
Do the people reading the essays read all the essays from one high school? So, are you being compared to your high school classmates or all students applying.
Great thank you TC. I do wanna talk about so students asking about plus or minus grades. Is that something that they can put in the academic history? Additional comment section if they wanted to.
You definitely can. Plus and minuses aren't really going to affect your GPA, so you know it's up to you if you want to add that piece of information.
Zach M.
12:01:58 PM
Should the additional comment section still be formal and refined?
Christy Blaine
12:02:01 PM
This question has already been answered, but no, we do not read and compare applications all from one high school.
Great thank you and then there's a good question. I should have additional comments section. Be formal or refined or anything like that, and the answer is no, there's really no style. Again, we're not checking for sale, were looking for content, so likely TC and I said, or Letizia said straightforward. Be as straightforward as possible, no need to fluff around if I'm trying to tell you I had a really tough time with the pandemic because a family member was sick. I'm just going to tell you just that way.
So very straightforward. No need to. Another thing about additional comments. It doesn't have to be one topic only. It really is like a.
Lump sum of information that you want to know. So just make sure that it makes sense. So when we are reading it, it's cohesive, coherent, but it could be on different topics if you wanted to. So you can talk about, you know, the social justice movements and some protests that you've attended, and then you can go back to how it affected your family, whatever it is.
Just an example, does it have to be?
I think we have one more question in here and it's related to certain class required classes without APR honors options an putting that information and academic history statement. So again again you can if you wanted to. We have some basic information on the high school that you're attending, so we have the number of apison.
Honors available for us. To see how many you know, kind of compare how many you've taken versus how many offered. That being said, we also have.
Saahil S.
12:04:01 PM
Should the additional comments section be in paragraph form or are bullet points ok?
Advisors who are very knowledgeable with your schools in areas reading your applications. So, for example, like Melanie, she would be most likely reading your applications for example, and she would be able to know like, OK, you know your school offers this amount of AP's, but you know I'm not looking for a peas in art history 'cause they don't offer a piece in that area. So we have very trained staff that will be able to identify that. But we also have some background information on the school so.
Melanie David
12:04:20 PM
Whichever you prefer as long as we understand what you are writing.
You don't have to include every single thing, it's more of something that is kind of not random, but something that is out of the blue or something that happened in a particular year that you want to explain, something that may not be familiar to anybody outside of the high school.
Great, thank you so much Anne. I did just respond to the question about additional comments. Does it need to be paragraph or bullet point? Honestly, it just depends on what you want. Just make sure we understand what it is. OK, we've seen it either way, but make sure it is.
Understandable for us. Again, we don't know you. I can't be like, hey what did you mean by this? What did you write about in this? What we get is your UC application and that's all we have to base it off of, OK?
Read by a human. It gets read multiple times. It's not just the TCO Christy and I'm making these decisions. We don't call each other. I don't call other UC's to talk about applications. Everything is very independent of each other.
And again, we understand that you're taking so much time on it. Look at you, you already getting a head start. The UC application opens up August 1st. I highly recommend that you start the application within the first week of August just to fill out the basic information. OK, I'm not expecting you to fill it all out. Fill out your basic information, leave it alone for another week or two.
And then come back to it because once senior year hits, y'all is going to be very different, right? We're hopefully going to be full force in person back to kind of different kind of normal, but a new normal and so we really want to make sure that you are prepared and ready to submit this by November because I we know you're not only applying to UC's, you're applying to csus, possibly out of state in state private school, so on and so forth. So we really want you to get as much of a head start as possible.
Alexandra S.
12:06:31 PM
So the rest of the application is not read by the people who read the PIQ questions? How do they understand you as a whole if each process is independant?
And again, you being here in the very beginning of your summer, just shows us how dedicated you are. So we truly appreciate your college counselors at your campuses for allowing us to do this so early on to prep you very well, and I know Los Altos is having a follow up at 1:30, so Los Altos High School students. Please make sure you join that zoom link to really get a great head start. So then you can leave it alone for a couple weeks and then come back to it and hopefully still enjoy your summer, OK?
So with that said, I think we have one more question and then we will be ending this session so the rest of the application is not read by the person who reads apiai cues. How do they understand you as a whole of each process is independent so.
I'm saying independent of each UC campus and per student. OK, so we're looking at the student in their environment.
I'm not comparing you to other students at your high school or even other high schools.
Or even in California? OK, what I mean by independent is that we're looking at you separately from other uses as well. We read your application as a whole, so your grades, your courses, your pie cues. We read it in one swipe, not swipe. But you know, in one sitting. And so we understand you as an entire person. So yes, we see your grade, your test scores not tested, not test scores. Sorry your grades. If you took any APS.
Your course choice, your activities and awards section, and your personal insight questions. So we see all of that. And again, I can't call you up and say like, hey, Letizia, what did you mean by this, like why?
What's happening here there? What we get is what we get in there so utilized this space that you were given give us insight on New York. Additional comment sections are there for you to include anything extra that you want to know.
That's what we mean by being independent reviewed.
And I'm not the only one making a decision. So like I said, I would most likely be the one reading your application or.
A lot of the Bay Area schools 'cause this is my territory. I know the region, but there's other folks in my office too that would be reading your application as well. So it's not just me making that final decision, it is.
More of a. There's actually a lot of steps that go into it, so just know that it's not just one person making this this decision.
Alexandra S.
12:08:41 PM
Okay, thanks for clarifying
And we read the exam the entire T of it all. We read every single word that you put in there.
12:08:44 PM
Melanie and Leticiia,
Cassandra R.
12:08:54 PM
thank you!
Fatafehi L.
12:08:58 PM
Thank you!
Nicole H.
12:08:59 PM
Thank you!
Jack P.
12:09:05 PM
Thank you!
Ishika G.
12:09:08 PM
Thank you!
Aaron M.
12:09:12 PM
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Nesyah G.
12:09:13 PM
Thank you!
Shristi S.
12:09:14 PM
Thank you!
Jaztine M.
12:09:15 PM
Thank you!
Allison H.
12:09:16 PM
thank you!
And thank you Angela. I really appreciate you know the accounting stuff that I work very closely with Atlas Altus in Mountain View, so I truly appreciate them. Students please utilized your college counselors. They are fantastic and this is what they're here for is to help you out. I know my email is on there so feel free to email me if you have any questions. But your college counselors. They know what's up. I work with them very closely so they are fantastic.
Sydney F.
12:09:21 PM
I appreciate your insight, thank you!
Vinay S.
12:09:26 PM
Thanks!
Maggie M.
12:09:27 PM
Thank you!
Rom M.
12:09:30 PM
Thank you
So with that said, thank you all so much again for being here. Thank you so much, Latisha and Chrissy, for being with me today. Thank you counselors. Thank you parents and students, students trying to enjoy your summer but get your work done too. Alright take care everyone bye.
Harry P.
12:09:36 PM
Thanks!
Natalie P.
12:09:40 PM
thank you!